30-40Km/h Your guidance is really the best Ive found so far. Its just a different look. If this doesnt work, there is no option to deactivate the PAS in software. FAQLoginRegister It only works with the BBSxx line-up. Windows Laptop / PC - Required to install and run the programming software. This is not what happens in practice though. The Bafang configuration tool link says the file is in your trash. It sometimes help to try another computer, but you already did this without success. Will it be ok to use the settings you provide or should i change anything else in the settings or reduce any of the settings? The DPC18 display you have, is the only display that does it in this way, which is rather strange indeed. I recommend the following settings: 0/0/1001/10/1002/20/1003/30/1004/40/1005/50/1006/60/1007/70/1008/80/1009/100/100. The level 0 is meant so that you can have the bike on, but without pedal assist or throttle. Avec cette configuration, encore quelques soucis : -coup parfois, et difficults de relance de niveau 2 3 voir 4. Work fast with our official CLI. This way you can make your own judgement about the battery percentage. You can monitor the voltage level of the battery as well, this way you can make your own estimate, but this requires some knowledge about battery voltage level vs capacity. The only option is buying a replacement controller: For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. About the Bafang Programming Resources: The BafangConfigTool.exe is in a zip file you can download on Penoff's Hobby Page and is a huge upgrade to the original configuration tool from Bafang. LOL It rode ok on pavement, but was worthless on dirt trails. Please could you try and help me? Let me ask you one more question. If you have e-brakes installed I recommend 25, because it is nice that it wont stop immediately. Error code 30 could also be caused by a faulty controller or display. If you have any questions, please leave them in this comment section. Is it possible the Bafang controller in the motor is defective? There isnt such a setting that you can change unfortunately. I think you are not reaching higher speeds because of your gearing and wheel size. But as explained in the previous comment, the 36V battery will not work with the BBSHD. Definitely check those out! Good luck reprogramming your Bafang system! PS: Anyone looking to buy a used BSSHD controller with the throttle mod done. The controller you have can handle a maximum current of 25A. I looked at the settings that you can change on your display. Will do soon and let you know. 16- reconnect LCD to bike Actually its 10 since there is a Level 0, but that level is (nowadays) a special case that you pretty much have to leave at a special setting and can't adjust. I dont think you can set it at 20 in the software though. Your speedometer will then still work like it should. Most other configurations set both of these items at 1. I have a Bafang 750W BBS02 with 48V 17.5Ah battery fitted to carerra subway 1 with a 8 speed rear cassette and a 44t chainring. The battery percentage read out is determined by your display firmware. This is a sneaky but important setting. In that case, it might help to set your monitors resolution to 19201080 instead. As always, thank you very much for your help my friend. Frank. I would like to ride without power on level ground but there is too much drag. Now show the display full range 100%. I dont see that you did anything wrong that could cause the controller to break completely. I will be extra careful in high gears. Hello, Is any chance to program BBS02 500Watt 36V to turn off pedal assist and use only throttle ? Ok. You should set this to match the wheel size of your bike. I am a little confused about why your controller isnt 30A. 29 inch wheels, will be the best for high speeds. If you find that all other things will not fix the issue, you could try this as a last resort. It indeed is a mistake of the previous owner if he set it at 26 in settings, but attached it to the 20 wheel, this will not work correctly. Have a good night! You should set this at 44 instead of 41. You will be better of to ride in a really low PAS mode (5% current limit for example). By setting all the other assistance levels (0-1-3-5-7) to 0 (zero) the controller works perfectly and selecting the 5 assistance levels from the display changes the motor rotation speed. Zover ik weet, zijn ze zelfs exact hetzelfde op een Bafang systeem. Name *. Error code 30 indicates an communication error. The problem with this is that you cant pedal along in low gears since the cadence of your own pedaling would need to be really high. No problem, you can ask me anything. Is there any remedy? If it reads to 20A default, this is absolutely fine. Does this cable and the software also work with the latest version of the Bafang mid-engine: the M420? If it also doesnt work on another pc, please let me know. There are compatibility issues reported, this firmware is suspected to be incompatible with older BBS02 controllers. You should check the settings: start degree and stop delay. Keep current will decide to which current your motor will drop. Turning the battery off and on instead of replugging it, shouldnt be the issue. What sounds a bit weird is that when attempting to test the display shows 0% battery charge when it was fully charged and then turned off do you have any advice by chance? But the difference is that the entire firmware needs to be reflashed. If you set this setting higher, it will assist more when you have reached a constant speed. It that case it will be really hard/impossible to damage the motor. You cant actually change the allowance for 52V using this programming software. Which is still an incredible amount of power, so you should be fine . This way you will be sure to enjoy the bike for years and years to come! And It has a trottle for pushing him with easy but thats it. Now I can no longer connect to the controller with pc and when I connect controller back to the screen I get an error code 30. Thank you for this detailed guide, this made by BBSHD perform just like i wanted it to. The error code 30 is probably also the cause of why the programming doesnt work. Refinements being (my favorites, anyway): I saw videos with the same kit, but battery with 17ah, 13ah, doing more then 100km range. Do you know how to enable this or maybe update the software or something? Description. Off topic comments are not a problem at all! Hi Giel, that is correct. So, yes, something is working, but I wonder if I should be messing with it or not. This could happen while I am taking it easy peddling on a flat surface in 5th gear with the PA set to 1. If you want the throttle to give more power and react more aggressive from the start you should adjust the following setting: You can increase the start current in the throttle tab. If the answer is yes and the thinking is that it will make me go faster, will that only be true for pedaling or will it also be true for using throttle only? Bafang employs about 1000 staff worldwide in eight locations. So riding along in too low of a gear in the effort of increasing efficiency will create the opposite effect since you then will not be able to put in your own leg power. The DPC-18 display is the fanciest most sleek Bafang display. I have a recumbent tricycle. It, in turn, will decide how fast the e-bike will accelerate. If the motor has a low current limit, the motor will not have enough power to accelerate the bike from a standstill, which possibly can be bad for the motor. But I am pretty sure it uses those levels. You could set it to 15A max, it depends on how powerful you want your bike to be. They are your best chance of getting it fixed without replacing the entire controller. You dont always get this notification though, so that can cause compability problems. The third option is to buy a new controller that does except 52V batteries. Ive been to his shop twice and there is always a excuse that he cannot because of laptop issues. I recommend 36, since this is the default and in my opinion, works perfectly. This cable and software does not work with the Bafang M420. A fully charged 48V battery would he 54.6V. You could also just lower the speed limit set on the display to a speed at which you can still pedal along. Most of the time, the firmware is set to a more conservative 18A. Pas de soucis particulier. So would definitely give that a try. Good luck though! Video & Photo File Upload. If you accidentally hit the throttle while the bike is on and in assist 0, the bike wont fly off. Its therefore hard to put a percentage to a voltage level. I have a fat bike with the M400 motor, that I bought used. Yeah think u are right. But this is not always clearly stated. Close to ordering the programming cable and start having fun with my bike as well. No problem! Thats why I state it in this way. My screen have always been set to 48V. In that case you can transfer the exact same settings. Hi, It kinda stalls at first press and takes a few seconds to get the bike going even at a slow 10km/hr. You can always try to get the chainring as close as possible with spacers, custom adapters etc. These instructions on updating the Bafang BBSHD firmware, to fix the problem with using 52v packs, were sent to me anonymously. This setting doesnt imply that the maximum speed with the throttle is 40km/u. The lower this setting, the faster the drive unit will decrease power as you pedal faster. If your display doesnt support a 52V battery mode, your battery percentage indicator will be useless as well. Try changing it and turning your bike on and off. I also noted on the new controller the throttle is working the way most people want to operate (smooth control of throttle on all Pas settings) Bafang must have gone back to original firmware that was there pre 2017 . Hi Giel ,in your recommendations for the settings you say to put pas0 to 0% current limit ,100% speed limit & throttle handle designated assist level to by displays command to be able to use throttle only . Its good that I didnt touch anything than. All is working nicely now. Have you any suggestions or any details how to configure them properly? But your behaviour is a bit weird. Herve, have you been able to get yours working properly? If the dealer didnt know that it would cause an issue, he should fix the problem for you. Hi Giel, thanks for your fine work! Giel thanks so much and wow that was a fast response. Thank you for your useful information. I have a 36v 500w bafang mm g340.500 07 motor. Received my cable today. When I changed the settings I left the Wheel Diameter as 26 as I didnt want to damage the controller by setting it to 20. Jai un Moteur M400 250W, batterie 557 Wh 48V. Hi Chiel, a different question related to charging and not programming, although they are close related. I have the 1000w Ultra with thumb throttle and find it quite an ON or OFF thing. You can simply use the suggested settings in this guide. Or is there anything I can do in the programme so I can keep up with my bike? I am close to buying a Bafang MId Drive kit. I would need the configuration parameters for bafang configuration tool). Setting the speed limit to 100% doesnt mean that the motor will try to ramp up the speed indefinitely. You should verify if the usb cable is actually connected to COM3, you should be able to check this in windows. Hi Giel , I have a bafang bbshd . In general you should just be really careful when shifting under high load. 5/76/58 I have set the settings the same. I dont want the throttle to work as soon as I switch on the display. Another method Ive heard of for the same settings is 1%, 1% & 9 . You signed in with another tab or window. So even if the sequence was wrong nothing bad should happen. Having such a high power motor connected to a belt drive is tricky in general, which could result in all sorts of trouble. Normally the gear-sensor takes the load off, but when it comes back it sometimes happens. Also There is one thing I dont understand in the throttle explanation. You are good to go! This way the bike will just keep assisting with a specified amount of power for that assist level. 32 or 64 bit? I found it really annoying that the motor would stop assisting at different speeds, at different assist levels. So completely wrong. Hi Giel, just read your reply to Ofer problem and I have something similiar! This is normal, the instructions only say that the battery should be on the bike. 2. Current and torque are directly related to eachother. These are some questions that might can help me think about something that went wrong. You should not have to do anything with baud rate, etc. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Damage could only occur with very low current limits. Increase the power with care though. With this configuration, there are still some problems: sometimes suddenly, and difficulty in relaunching level 2 to 3 or even 4. 17.5 Ah li.ion DPC18 displa DPC18 Display Any way to increase the throttle to max on all PAS but keep it variable? I am happy that you like the website, thanks! Thank you for your programming guide, it is clear and comprehensive. First of all, you state that you dont really care that much about range and that you want a small battery. https://github.com/danielnilsson9/bbshd-fw/releases, Install I realize this may be impractical, but Im only using it as an example. So if you want full power, you can set it to 15. I tried. AS AN AMAZON ASSOCIATE I EARN FROM QUALIFYING PURCHASES. Did you save the factory settings? Strange. This is what is says in the right lower corner of the program software. Do you also have any suggestions on small front chainring? It will even increase the lifetime of the motor by using it at lower power levels. Giel, thanks so much for all the great info! John. Regarding the parameters nothing more than what I said before. I checked all connections. What current limit (A) i can put on the first page, I mean, what is the maximum number? This works so far and the speed assist level is being set correctly! If all those fixes dont work, it could be that the controller is simply broken. TommyL, Hi Giel, Just to update you on Is there a way I can limit a bbshd 52v to 250watrs for police satisfaction? So by setting the 9 assistance levels on the Settings in the first tab (Basic) I found that the Ebike responds perfectly on paved roads and on wide dirt roads, but when the paths become narrow and demanding if I enter level 4-5 to have more power the speed is too high to lead the Ebike safely. When i try to save to flash with 30 amp it give fault to high current or something like that. Can you a So for the BBS01, BBS02 and BBSHD. Who wants to lug their laptop out to the bike or vice versa? A higher current will result in greater torque. After 3 years you could maybe open it open put new grease in it. The software, however, isnt very sophisticated and doesnt really take into account the nonlinearity. Your power will increase, but the reliability will decrease. But I think that I will also not be able to point out what went wrong. Thank you for answer. Great that you liked the post, thanks! This setting will decide how fast the motor will stop assisting when you stop pedaling. Or do you think the BBSHD is better? I would recommend reinstalling the drivers or trying to install another driver that you can find on the internet. Assist 6 -current limit 80 speed limit 70 Assist 8 -current limit 90 speed limit 50 Assist 9-current limit 100 speed limit 40 In this way on level 5 of the display I have the maximum current with a reduction in speed I also confirm that the two modes of the ECO / SPORT display are exactly the same except for the color change. Error code 30 can be an hard error to fix, since it is not always clear which part is causing the error. Good luck solving the problem! Thank you very much for the info. Knowing what values to enter is the trick. The wires had pulled away from the pins within the moulded connector. The first issue is probably the most likely problem causing the issue. You are also addressing the fact that you cant keep up with the motor at high power levels due to the high rpm. So if you hit either of those limits, the motor will stop assisting or turn down the power. Its stops only when i use the brakes to stop the motor. If nothing happens, download Xcode and try again. The BBSHD is capable of supporting up to 9 assist levels. Do you have a 36V, 48V or 52V battery? SOLVED! Anyway, I feel like a complete fool. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rerH9mTJQfyJcuiB5atlN_aV99v8UBij/view It only works with the Bafang BBSxx series. Maybe I need to adjust something in the programing? To increase the power of the initial throttle push, you can increase the start current. Most of the time you will have to press some button combination so that you will enter a special menu on your display. I understand you can always shift to lower gear but lets say it would increase pedal cadence/RPM to a high uncomfortable rate. Will thry original software today. I like pedal a lot and use assist by motor using only by throttle? If those values are set correctly, there is nothing else that you can do. But if you are able to sensibly shift without the gear sensor, you should be fine as well. Die Mglichkeit, dass Sie etwas braten, ist dann ziemlich hoch. The BBS02 750W will deliver more than enough power. Thank you. Apart from that, I wouldnt know what could cause the issue. Im only out with the kids maybe 2- 3 hrs at the most in our local mountain bike trails and I would say 3/8 of the time we are just going up and the other 5/8 the time is all about developing the kids skills riding down the trails. So you cant really increase range by changing some settings. A COM port (often Com5) will be assigned to the portif it tells you which one that is, write it down. Ok thats what i thought. BBS02A - No idea, not tested, not recommended to try unless you have an already bricked controller. If you decrease it even more, the pedal-assist wont work at all anymore for some reason. I have recently installed the Bafang kit on my Cannondale Full MTB. Good that everything does work fine. Thanks a lot for your detailed comment/explanation. (3.5 MiB) Downloaded 602 times If not, can you tell me the setting changes Ill need to make? Thanks for your time. Thanks again for sharing, it really is much appreciated! Are you using a 4K monitor? Ex I have 0% on the screen, but I still can ride 20km. So I would in practice just choose the gear that is most comfortable to pedal along with, it might be a bit less efficient, but it does make riding the bike much more comfortable. I never heard about it. Therefore it could be possible that you destroyed your IGH with the power of the BBSHD. A 17Ah or 13Ah will definitely not give the same range, at the same speeds. The second issue was a faulty usb cable which made me believe the controller was faulty. It could also be a faulty controller, which cant establish a connection. So if this is what the bike reads, it is correct. I saved my original settings, but when I went to restore them, the bike does not operate. There is no dedicated software or cable available for programming this specific motor for consumers. Exept for the designated assist level. I hope it works as intended! This is what you would expect. If the controller works fine for the bike part, I wouldnt replace it though. Download. So the throttle wont work either. Therefore I think that the efficiency difference in different gears is not that big, but in general, a lower gear will be more efficient. You could snap a chain when you apply a lot of power in the wrong gear when accelerating from a standstill for example. By the way, my controller has been completely recovered. Only difference is battery protect at 30 and have amps at 20(where I have had it for the last 1000 ks) But I dont recommend setting it higher than 4. Do you think that flashing my controller with a 48v controller will solve the problem? maar als nog thnx, I realize this is a strange one for sure. If you want this, you should set the current limit on PAS 0 to a value different then 0 (depending on the power you want). 52.6V would be around 85%. Be aware that you can cause damage to your motor/bike if you set the start current to high. Check if you have the same issues there. Good luck! You cant damage the motor or controller by setting the amp limits to low values. Although this one is hard to change on an existing bike, bigger wheels also improve cadence. A lot of settings can be applied to the BBS02 36V 500W as well. Is it possible that my motor is not programmable? If you happen on settings that work for you, please share. I suspect that your motor still works fine? Hi, Giel! This could be the case. Therefore I recommend 18A, since it is a good compromise. (19.86 KiB) Downloaded 869 times. I should set it at: by displays command. If the egg rider doesnt work at all, the chances of a defective controller are pretty high. So in principle you should get the BBS02B. I do not have PAS setting in the display. You will need to use low assist modes, so you wont cause the battery to hit the voltage cut-off. You however will still have a very slight pedal assist in level 0, because this simply cant be eliminated. It is by far the best setting I
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