Privacy Policy. You must log in or register to reply here. NmQ3YmIxMjI5OWQzODA4NTY1M2JiYjY0N2RkNDAwYjFjMzY5NWI1YTEwZDA3 Y2FjODY0ZGQzMzkzZTBiMDY0ZGExZmU5YzE4ZTUzZTE0ODA1ZDVlMDU0OWM5 NjdmYWI3ZTFlNmM0YmVhOTliZGM3MzQzNmVjOGNiODMxYmExYmRiNTIyMDc2 Can play Dithmarschen who has too, for extra challenge. By this I mean I don't know which one to focus on at any given time. Archived post. I think diplomatic and trade ideas are well suited for building small but tall countries (ally to fight your wars, trade for money which gives you mercs). You can do some real damage to armies with the swiss home guard in mountain forts! If anyone has any useful advice, it would be much appreciated. MjBmZGIxYjhhMTM3MTM2Mjk4NWNmMWVjMWFjNzllNTdlNGE1NDkxODU3ZGJk I also kept the Rothenburger ideas since forming Franconia (I wanted to have no penalties from heretic provinces, which is their first idea). I find Administrative as a first ideagroup to be even more awesome for Holland. Some Dutch minor into the Netherlands? YzI0ZmIwNjY2ZmQwNTQxZDdlZjYwOWY2ZjA2OWE5M2FlNjVhMjFmM2Y1MzM3 I picked up europa universalis just a couple days ago and want to do a campaign as the Netherlands as my first serious game. If you want to dev the shit out of provinces, Hamburg or Aachen could do. You can colonize and have probably the most cost effective land for deving in Europe. MTVhMzA0MDNkM2I1NTMyNzg2NGJjNDEzYmE3NTI1MjYzMmYyNDIxNjc3YjMz I've just played a Ayuttaia game that I'm dropping, because it becamed quite boring after I united the whole Malayan lands, becoming N1 in dev and income, and also due to lack of events or mechanics for SE Asia. if I wouldn't pick Exploration first, I would definitely not take a military one but an administrative. Normally economy and trade are subpar idea groups because you're trading monarch points for gold. Peasant republic. All rights reserved. 2nd Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWpgb8x6L5pCuakP_137lqADiscord: https://discord.gg/ksDjjUhKHdTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/theredhawkliveTwitter: https://twitter.com/TheRedHawkYTBecome a member: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSRjWr3pAEaBvi0u6bdexTw/joinIn this video titled EU4 1.33 Holland Guide - PLAYING TALL Is INSANE as Holland I make an EU4 Guide for Holland for Europa Universalis 4 1.33 France. Some other suggestions would be Denmark, Bavaria, Papacy, and Naples. Espionage may be fun, just to give you something to do via support rebels as well as the -20% reduce AE when you do decide to take a few more HRE provinces. Innovative sucks, i would switch it with humanist or expansion for helping expansion into Asia/Africa or economic if you want to play tall. In This EU4 Holland Guide we start as Holland, get independence from Burgundy and Play Tall with few provinces and get more income than anyone elseHere's the version of this video where you fight the independence war! By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Usually, I take economic and quantity and take exploration and expansion as third and fourth idea groups. Archived post. Archived post. M2QwMDE1ZDY3ZGI2ODk0MmEyODZkYWZlM2RiOGJlMWJkNTYxNTM0OGIzYzM5 Zjc1ZTllNDQ1OTYzNWQyNTFmYzMyY2MyMzE5YmVmMGI4YWM0OWIzZDA5ZWY0 -----END REPORT-----. ZGU1ZWRlNGE5NWY5Y2JjMGIxZDdkNjJhNzgzNzA4MDI1NzkwYWNmYWEyYmMz In my experience, the Low Countries region is probably the best and most fun region for playing tall, and it also one of the easiest if you are new to playing tall. I do not plan on expanding any further. NDVhNTBmMTA1ZjNiZjQzYjkzMTVmMWQ1ODhkNWUyNWUzY2JmMmM1NjMyZDky playing as an opm the entire game is an even smaller chunk of the community than building up a whole region (say Ireland or the Netherlands as an example). MGNlYTQ0YTYxOTc5NjlmYTI5NzI5ZWE0YWRlNzEyM2M1ODJkM2NmZGUxNmY3 YjMxMWI5YWJlZTg2MDM1MzNmMjk4NGNkNDJmYWY3YjVjMjcyMjRjNzEwODUw OGYzMzVlNjIzNWM4OTQ4Y2Q4MmM0MjliNzAzNTdiMTVhYmEyZmQwNGVhZTc5 After countless patches and DLCs, you can finally comfortably build up your nation without conquering vast swathes of land! The save file is available for all Tier 1 and above Youtube members in the save-games Discord channel. and our ZWRmNGI4ZjFlIn0= New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I just wanted to know which ideas are best for this and in what order I should adapt them. Traditions tech cost -10% and idea cost -10%; first idea development cost -20%. Provinces in orange must be owned and cored to form the Netherlands. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. Dithmarschen has the RT bonus as well decent military ideas and quite solid memey missions (there's one that gives permanent +goods modifier for example). I did start with Exploration first though, every time I'm playing as a minor (Flanders for example) I pick Exploration first. Yzg0MzAxYTBmMDFhNDkxNmM5ZTE1Njg1OWZhYTllZWY0YjBiZTJhZmRiMGQw NjgwNWQyMGEyNzA1YWUwZTU0NGZiNTI1N2IxOTQ0NjY3YTZjZDlhYTJmOTBi So Espionage is an option for the -20 AE because you will always be waiting on AE to die down. Even tall, you can use the extra diplo relations for more allies and diplomats for more curry favors. The Dutch are emerging as one of Europe's most capable naval and colonial powers. Don't you find taking exploration so early is "underutilised", i.e without doing tricky things like taking a province in Brittany you can't get very far. ODhiZTk1MDQyMGZjNjAxZTUxMDEyZjdiZmJjYWJjMjk2ZTNmZDU3MDFhNjZj I did start with Exploration first though, every time I'm playing as a minor (Flanders for example) I pick Exploration first. OGI4NWIyYzhjNWQ0N2JjNTEwMGM1NGJiMTc0YjUxMGJkNTk2M2ZmMzg3ZTY5 I am planning to play tall, once I have all the low lands regions I am mostly going to focus on becoming a trade and colonial power. Try to make the silk road! Europa Universalis IV. Y2ZkNjRiZTlmYjU1YWQ3NWJkNmNkZmYxMzY1N2NhYmZmMzhiMzE2NDQ2ZWY4 NEW EU4 Playing Tall META Changes EVERYTHING Ludi et Historia 159K subscribers Join Subscribe 10K Share Save 204K views 10 months ago #eu4 #eu4playingtall #eu4netherlands In This EU4. Archived post. ZGFhNTIzNTRlMzAxZjRmN2QxZWJmMzcwZmVhYzcyYzZhMmRmMTkyNzI1MmE5 For the ideas of individual countries, see national ideas. You are using an out of date browser. MzIwMzllZGU4NjQ5YTk1NTM2NGE0Nzk4NDM1YTNkNDdkY2E2NmVkMjkyNTAw I would go for Diplomatic, because of more Improved Relations and Warscore cost. The act of conquering the Netherlands is simple to do. Awesome game, first decades are challenging since you can't expand very fast but if you limit yourself to the low countries and conquest of coastal centers of trade in Africa + Indian Ocean + Far East you can rack over 1.000 ducats/months of income and >1.000 development in the low countries alone (lowest dev province at 30 . Third idea should then be either Exploration, to get colonies going, or a military idea of your choosing. -----BEGIN REPORT----- The rest is ok, i don't usualy go for plutocracy because it's not available but it looks good, +10% Morale +20% Mapower Recovery +2.5 Merc Discipline seem pretty good for a single idea group. YTA1YTk5MjhhYmVmYjI3NWRmZjUxN2Y1ZGU3MDU0ZWI3ZjQ4ZGJlM2MxNjY1 ZTU3NGY1YjE5NDllNjliZTEyMGQ0ZTM5NTlkNTgzZTcwZGQ2ZjllZGE2MjA2 OTI5NDVlZDE3YzU2MWEyYWIyY2YwODdhNGU0MTJlMmZmMzI4YWQ1OGFlNDg3 Since your provinces are few and have much more tax/production than manpower, you'd rely on mercs for war, as you will also have more than enough money to support your merc infantry. After that, you can mix and match to suit your playstyle, but be sure to include production efficiency +20% followed by goods produced +20% and a morale +20% to stack with the peasant republic bonuses. MTA4ZmFjOTQ1M2U3YWMzZDI5YWY2MCIsInNpZ25hdHVyZSI6IjQ3M2I0ZWEz NmI3ZjY5NDU0ZjhlNTE2YzZkMTNjMmFlNTA2YTI0NzViZTIxNDE1Njg5NjRl Truth be told, the necessary tools for a successful tall campaign did not exist in the game's early days. N2E5NTFjNGI1ZDAyMDJhMjAwMmI0MTI1MDYxOGVjOWUwYmQ5ZjY5Y2RhNmQ0 Nzc3M2ZjMTk0ZmRkYzA3NGNhMWEyOGQ5NmY5NzI2NjAyY2M1ZWJkNGYzNDIz If you are sitting too long at 100%war score burgundy will automatically realease you without any penalties and the ability to get the BI, but if the BI goes to Spain or Austria you'll have a hard time forming the dutchies. JavaScript is disabled. Maybe Offensive instead of Quality? Your lands are very rich, you are at an end node, and you can colonize if you want. Generated by Wordfence at Mon, 1 May 2023 16:24:03 GMT.Your computer's time: document.write(new Date().toUTCString());. I thought I might share my thoughts on idea groups/strategy for Holland. It's possibly the most universally viable idea group, and even though you'll be using a lot of mercs as the Netherlands, you'll still be dangerously small with low manpower and force limit early on, and until your trade income takes off you're going to have to field a lot of your own troops. YWUxYmEzYjcxZDViODc1MDZkYTllMTQ1ZWMwY2VlODljN2Q0MmY0NzBiY2I5 YjIwYjI3MTRjYjYxMzI0ZTYwMTg4YmQ0NTQ1NjlmNWVkZGE2MmEzZDU0YWVm So my current goal is to do a tall Holland to Netherlands run and form a colonial empire. MWUyZjg3ZDRiMjUwYWY0MGQ1M2ZlYTRiZjk3ZDgwNDZjMDUwY2MyODg5ZWM3 MzI5ZGYwMjViNDYzNjljODRkNTYzYTJkMzlkNjE1OTFhMmZmMmE1Mjc2Zjdm NTVhOTM3MmI1NWY2OTNjZGY1YzlkNWM0NzkxMWU0ZTE2NmQ4ZjlkMGUwZmVk A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Venetia going into the the mamelukes and then going for Hormuz etc. Maybe administrative for mercenary cost bonuses. OWExMWEwZWM1NTVhMDNmOGQ2YjBmNjZjNGU3MDhjYjA2MjBkZjIzYjMyMzU0 MjExNzJiNDY0OWFmMGIwMTJhMjgzM2JjYTUwN2Y5ODc3YjM4Y2EzMmJhMDM2 By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. EU4 1.33 Holland Guide - PLAYING TALL Is INSANE as Holland The Red Hawk 103K subscribers Join Subscribe 3.5K Share 125K views 8 months ago #eu4 #europauniversalis4 2nd Channel:. If you're going exploration 3rd, you might as well grab diplo and just steal other peoples colonies. For the practical guide on idea groups, with analysis and recommendations, see Idea groups guide.. As a nation develops technologically, it unlocks the ability to gain additional idea groups.Investing into a full idea group can take a long time and cost several decades worth of power. MmZmMzFiMmJmYzcyNjBjYzJjMDRmNmQyNGExMzJlZjQ5MzlmNWNkZTNmMDc5 *shrug*. With economy and dutch ideas your capital has -40% development costs. Playing tall in EU IV is a playstyle that many players enjoy. The only advantage it has is the +20% Infantry CA from the policy with Quality. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. What idea groups should I be looking at down the road? 62K views 1 year ago An Europa Universalis 4 Top 10 Playing Tall Formable Nations focusing on the best formable national ideas for Eu4 playing tall which is going to illustrate the EU4. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. MWVkMWI3ZDA5ZjE0YjdlODgyZDcyOTIxMWUzMzQ2ZGNhN2M5MzBjNDg4NzEw OTE2ODdmZTYwN2ZjYThmNTYxOTQyMzdiMGFkYWM1YWRkOGQwMThmMzE2YmZj Playing tall is my preferred playstyle, and I can tell you that you can play a fun, successful, tall campaign just about anywhere, even mountainous Switzerland (one of my favorite areas and my most recent tall campaign). Copy Prussia. This guide covers the opening moves, getting independence form Burgundy, diplomacy, estates, alliances, subjects, missions, national ideas, and more! ODc4NjZhMzU0OTM5Njc5ZWFhMGQ3ZGNlYWRlY2NkZjRjZDU2NWQxMDUyMjVk Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. ZjBlN2NjYjIxZWFjZmY5ZTIyYzg3MGM2MTdlMThlZTQxYTczMGYzYjdmNzk5 In This EU4 Holland Guide we start as Holland, get independence from Burgundy and Play Tall with few provinces and get more income than anyone elseHere's the version of this video where you fight the independence war! Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. I don't plan on disbanding the HRE unless it looks like the Emperor is going to revoke the privilegia. Yjg5MjUwZWFiMTExZjU4Njc2NDI0NzNjODJlNzliZWRjNTNjMGIyNGI5YjQ4 Valve Corporation. Europa Universalis 4 Wiki Active Wikis AoW: Planetfall Cities: Skylines Crusader Kings 3 Empire of Sin Europa Universalis 4 Hearts of Iron 4 Imperator: Rome Prison Architect Stellaris Surviving Mars Surviving the Aftermath Vampire: The Masquerade Victoria 3 if you want a really tall campaign take breda in your independence war. Gives your military an edge, economy helps keep the ducats flowing so you can build infrastructure and it unlocks a +5% discipline policy. Lucrative trade opportunities, locally and overseas, have resulted in a swift evolution for the country into one of the first capitalist countries in the world. ZTc4Mzg4YzQwZWQyYTBjMjllOGI1NWZiMDE5NGUxZTgwZTFkNGU0OGEwZmM2 I love Diplo. Your access to this site was blocked by Wordfence, a security provider, who protects sites from malicious activity. EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr, When Murder Solves Everything - a CK3 Flanders AAR, http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198096305352/. That's how I played my campaign. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. YmQ3ZWZjZTg4ODMwODUzNzRhNzE0NmRjNWMwNmMxNGE2MzgxZWRkNzI2YWIx Innovative sucks, i would switch it with humanist or expansion for helping expansion into Asia/Africa or economic if you want to play tall. You'll get a TON of monarch points, a lot of money (Milan is pretty much the most developed 4-provinced minors in the world) and cool ideas (both cheaper tech and ideas) Once you're confident enough you can form Italy, adopt its' ideas (mainly for cheaper core creation) and blob out of proportion. ZDFhZjI3ODdhMTZjYWFmMWRjMGQ3YWViMmY1MjAyYzM4M2VmYzdhZWYyMzgw I would go with Exploration, you want to be as competitive as you can be in the coloizing game. My Idea Groups for Holland. As well has reducing interest on your loans that has proven vital for my play through when involved in wars against austria. ZGVmYzFlOGMxNDI1ZWNkNTEyOWYxN2Q0MzIwNmU5YTlmNWUyOWVmZTU5Zjc3 It may not display this or other websites correctly. This is an unofficial video, not endorsed by Paradox Interactive.An EU4 1.33 Guide for Holland and eventually Netherlands or Eu4 Netherlands in which we do the EU4 independence war against eu4 burgundy who could have been eu4 lotharingia except it died cause it's just eu4 burgundy and we're eu4 holland omg this is amazing bla blaThe following DLC is used in this series:Eu4 Origins leviathan Emperor DLC, Dharma, Rule Britannia, Cradle of Civilization, Third Rome, Mandate of Heaven, Rights of Man, Mare Nostrum, The Cossacks, Common Sense, El Dorado, Art of War, Res Publica, Wealth of Nations, and Conquest of Paradise.#eu4 #eu4holland #eu4playingtall #eu4netherlands The Dutch are emerging as one of Europe's most capable naval and colonial powers. https://youtu.be/N97_INwKhBI PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ludiethistoria TWITCH http://www.twitch.tv/ludiethistoria DISCORD https://discord.gg/TjNRkGnYkwCheck out my Twitch Vods Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCri3qYX24n8cpPp2g4xtA4Q You can Also Check My Personal Channel Here! https://www.youtube.com/c/Ludisan More Starting Moves Guides in this playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrsZC4e_2qJ_CfLMUMsP4d2ylMwdxWPrE Europa Universalis IV is a grand strategy games published by Paradox Interactive. I currently have Economic and Quality ideas. Scan this QR code to download the app now. What do you think are good idea groups for small but tall nations? Missions Main article: Dutch missions Any suggestions for a newbie friendly nation for my first playthrough? As Holland into the Netherlands, you want to go colonial so exploration and expansion are mandatory. I've been playing Venice without blobbing because I wanted to be a small but powerful nation. https://youtu.be/N97_INwKhBI PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ludiethistoria TWITCH http://www.twitch.tv/ludiethistoria DISCORD https://discord.gg/TjNRkGnYkwCheck out my Twitch Vods Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCri3qYX24n8cpPp2g4xtA4Q You can Also Check My Personal Channel Here! https://www.youtube.com/c/Ludisan More Starting Moves Guides in this playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrsZC4e_2qJ_CfLMUMsP4d2ylMwdxWPrE Europa Universalis IV is a grand strategy games published by Paradox Interactive. For the ideas of American natives, see native ideas. Switzerland is fun playing defensive and using your troops as mercs to earn money. YTc4ZWY3N2QxYTAwZTZhMTkwYWRlZmYwYTY3YjNjMWY3ZWQ1Nzg4Mjc5NWI3 Some general advice would be nice as well. Oh and the only DLC I have is common sense and art of war just so you know. I think econmoy is good early idea for netherlands as finsining it has 20% reduction in development costs. Quality, offensive and economic make a good trio for tall nations. I own every Franconian province, and only them. YjI1OWMxNjY4NTA0N2QwMzgxZWU2ZGJjN2YyMzhlZGIyNTc1YTlmZWVjY2Y5 Let them come. Egalitarians prefer freerange, organic xenoburgers. Makes for awesome siege ability, and the extra 20% FL also seems like something Holland would like. After watching this EU4 Holland guide you will ensure a great start for yourself, and you will have an easy and fun campaign. The biggest question is when you should unlock them. NTFmMzVlNzA3ZTM0OThlZmQwYTM2ZmVlMDkwZDJjMjIyMzgwNTY0MmJhZmEw I'm on my second Holland -> Netherlands play through on this patch. #eu4 #europauniversalis4 What others should I be looking at to play tall in the HRE? I prefer waging war against Burgundy, so as to release the other minors, but you can get your independence for free if you manage to get the support of all three rivals. . ZGJmMDAyODI0ZTA0YjE4MDExZmI5NThmMTAzYTVhMzdhOWY5OGVjYzJhMzA0 NDdhNTAyMTM3NmI2OTI3NmQzODVhYjBiYjE0ZTU4Njc0NDk1MTFiZTEwOWFk YTgyMzVjYzcxYTI0YTU2NmFkNmE0MTRiYTAzODNjMDM2MDdjNzk0NTM3NWM4 MmUyMGQ4OWJmMDZiYjQzNjkyNGFmMjZlOWQ3MzkyN2ZjNWFlNjllYjkwODU1 Furthermore, dutch national ideas are designed for tolerance, economy, etc, so taking ideas for this is sort of overkill . 5. universe2844 3 yr. ago. YTM4ODg4YTdjNmJiZjEzNTIwNDdkNTVmZGVmNDg2ZjE1YTExMzMwNjgzYmZl Thread starter Johnhawkwood; Start date Apr 23, 2018; . So I'm currently doing a Rothenburg -> Franconia game, and it's my first time playing tall. The challenge mostly depends on your starting situation and how much you limit yourself throughout the campaign. This is because the aspects that are central to playing tall (building slots, trade goods, trade nodes etc) become accessible by just taking more land as well. N2IyNDVlZDFlZTYxYjJhMmE3MTA0MjBhNGY3NWZhZWY3OGJhMWU3ZTU0N2Vj Scan this QR code to download the app now. This is an unofficial video, not endorsed by Paradox Interactive.An EU4 1.33 Guide for Holland and eventually Netherlands or Eu4 Netherlands in which we do the EU4 independence war against eu4 burgundy who could have been eu4 lotharingia except it died cause it's just eu4 burgundy and we're eu4 holland omg this is amazing bla blaThe following DLC is used in this series:Eu4 Origins leviathan Emperor DLC, Dharma, Rule Britannia, Cradle of Civilization, Third Rome, Mandate of Heaven, Rights of Man, Mare Nostrum, The Cossacks, Common Sense, El Dorado, Art of War, Res Publica, Wealth of Nations, and Conquest of Paradise.#eu4 #eu4holland #eu4playingtall #eu4netherlands Holland is one of the best nations for playing tall, having a massive army that is also extremely powerful, being extremely rich, dominating trade, forming The Netherlands and more! All rights reserved. Quantity, trade, offensive, influence. NEW EU4 Playing Tall META Changes EVERYTHING Ludi et Historia 159K subscribers Join Subscribe 10K Share Save 204K views 10 months ago #eu4 #eu4playingtall #eu4netherlands In This EU4. If you believe Wordfence should be allowing you access to this site, please let them know using the steps below so they can investigate why this is happening. Cookie Notice They do start in an awkward position though. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I recently did a run as the Netherlands as Holland and man, first time I felt a navy was actually worth something - with a sweet navy limit of 400 ships, the amount of money you can get is insane, I think I had a positive profit of 400 ducats a month. eyJtZXNzYWdlIjoiZTZlMDJhOTRkZTQzNmVlMTQyMzYxOTQ0NGUzOTljMzg0 Scan this QR code to download the app now. I don't really know what to do do now, bare bulliyng the Ming (who is already falling appart as I've eaten all his tributaries), or wage unterminable wars against Spain for the few isles they have in Philippines. Both have +0.3 RT in their ideas. You are using an out of date browser. Also, with provinces being as highly developed as they are, the corecost reduction is especially sweet. OWZlYmQyMzE5ODljZmYyZTk1YWVlN2JiYTYwZWFkNWUzNTMyZTU0YzllNTk1 When you're still small and vulnerable, you can't risk getting behind in military tech while you won't be expanding fast in the Low Countries due to high development and AE. ZThmNzM5NTM4NWViN2IzOThhOTY5NGM2Mjc4ODg4YTg5MjUzNTYxYzY0NzIx JavaScript is disabled. I am tight, tall, high quality and ready to roll out the Merchants and fleets on to my global infrastructure. This EU4 Holland starting moves guide or EU4 Holland starting moves tutorial will ensure that you get a great start for yourself playing as the nation of Holland. With EU4 1.33 France releasing the meta and the starting moves for many nations on the map has changed, so of course new and up to date guides are needed. Thanks for the replies everyone but without the ability to ask country`s to support my independence I am going to leave the Netherlands be for now. EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr, https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Republic#Republican_Dictatorship. Hum, I'm a bit fearful of quickly endind by being eaten by France or Burgundy, as I never played in this region. All rights reserved. The low countries are my go to tall play, namely Holland, you become quite safe after getting independence since you join the HRE.
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