Our free will is a powerful gift from God. Get it? "No. If he refuses to listen even to the church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector. It is so sound. HLM is the most exquisite display of the solid mystical theology of the Catholic Church. If the bishop were to state that no credibility can be given to HLM messages, he would, in effect, be disavowing the teachings of the Catholic Faith, as the messages of HLM ARE those deep and ancient truths of Catholicism. When others disapprove of your participation here, remember Heaven approves. I found all my references on the orhtodox website, Catholic Apologetics, which can be googled on the internet. "No. There is very little dealing with specifics, just continuous harping on Lenons decree.. You yourself are trying to be specific, but what you are doing is exhibiting your inability to think straight. No way. Here is the quote I have come to explain to you the Sixth Chamber. When the Church wants to speak definitely, she does so. Secondly, there appears to be a contradiction. I would not get involved with it. Help me to be Your instrument in the world. Madame, please state SPECIFICALLY the heresy at HLM. Would you add to your intentions, please, that 3221 refrain from using such vulgar language as 3221 used above Let me tell you something else, Kevin, while you are d_______ with proper canonical procedure? This, my friends, is what he gets out of it: There will be a number of people who believed they were healed or their faith brought to life through Holy Love Ministries that, like a rebellious adolescents, will respond, We dont have to listen to the Church.. Go back to the synagogue of Satan you call Holy Love Ministries and leave the Catholic flock alone. Given that he himself may have an all-too human agenda for nixing HLM, and add to that he will not give a reason for his disapproval, and add to that the corruption that now infiltrates the Catholic Church, I am very wary of him. It is called bitterness. (Oh, and by the way, Holy Love Ministries has one of those miraculous springs. It concerns me in a personal way because I know several friends who are what Id call serious Catholics, but are seriously attached to this place, almost in a cult-like fashion. We pray at HOLY LOVE. July 2019: You will be persecuted because of your faith. In the meantime I really cannot understand how this ministry that promotes. (Summa Theologica 11-11Q.104). (2) The Pope is infallible in all he says and does. Holy Love Ministries is an ecumenical lay apostolate committed to living and propagating the Holy Love, Divine Love and United Hearts messages. EXCELLENT and apropos quote from the revelations to St. Margaret Mary. You should fear anyone who will not acknowledge their errors especially if they hold persuasion over many hearts. I myself have visited a couple apparition sites that proved to be false. It behooves each of us to be fortified in the knowledge of what our Faith really teaches. Disobedience to Church authority is one of the premier hallmarks of a false vision or apparition (there are others such as self-promotion, pride and profitting). This place made me a better Catholic and its saving souls. Had a friend who could not have a baby. The people of the Cleveland Diocese fought Bishop Lennon fiercely in order to retrieve parishes sold by him and monies taken by him. What Bishop would stop Christians from praying the Rosary, Chaplet of Divine Mercy and many Holy prayers there, in pouring rain, sleet, thunderstorms, frigid, & hot temperature together? What is required is loyalty to the Church in matters of Faith and morals and to a bishop who is upholding these. 3. On the surface, everything about the site appears to be Catholic, but it is not. How did you read his statement? We are sorry that the bishop has taken this position. If you feel so inclined to take his advisement, go ahead. 3221 You are absolutely wrong. I really was so interested and even moved by Holy Love after I read Heavens Last Call but regardless of all the inspirational messages, sacramentals, and devotions I had to step back after reading the more recent alleged messages disregarding local Church authority. Despite all the usual Catholic trappings chapel, statues, rosaries and religious bookstore, not to mention the throngs from across the country and globe the purported visions by Maureen Sweeney-Kyle have been condemned. Given the distortions, the heresies, and the banal humanistic claptrap that passes for Catholic theology in so much of Catholic catechesis today, the full beauty of Catholic Truth in evidence at Holy Love Ministries stands out in bold relief. And what did Padre Pio do when the Bishop ordered him to stop? However, once the Church has condemned a site and declared it off limits to clergy and laity, its a different ball game. I am a clear writer. I referenced the Sister Magdalena of the Cross post from your website about six hours ago (close to the bottom of this page). I showed him Thomas email and explained my use of the word condemned. You do so as well.. The Lord indeed is my savior; I am confident and unafraid. Find me one theological errorjust one. What draws me to defend Holy Love Ministries, and which motivates me to write to you, is that I see there full, authentic Catholic doctrineand a depth presentation of that doctrinepromulgated there. In the end, the type of people who go to apparition sites are not necessarily nave or foolish. I appreciate that, Elizabeth, and I ask God to bless you. Do you think these many unethical bishops in the Church todaythese ravenous wolves who control most of the operations of the NCCBare going to roll over and play dead when Pope Benedict XV1 goes Home to God? Disorder will spread everywhere and many consecrated will walk like the blind leading the blind. Its not wrong to go to a site where purported apparitions are occurring. If the bishop told you that the Holy Eucharist is only the Body and Blood of Jesus DURING Mass, would you believe and follow that? Thanks. When that Faith is diluted, distorted, and/or not taught, you no longer have the true Church. The treasure of Holy Love Ministries is that it is teaching the fullness of the Catholic Faith and the depth mystical theology that underpins it. It is also noticeable in the decree that Bishop Lennon FORBIDS priests (of any diocese) from saying Mass on HLM property. Call it the Holy Spirit or my Guardian Angel, but I dont think this is a true Catholic organization. If we CHOOSE (use our free will) to REJECT Gods grace, it cannot flow into our souls. Jesus Is Condemned To Death. Fr. Gary Yanus, Judicial Vicar Diocese of Cleveland, since Bishop Lennon was recovering from surgery. How to do this ~ your guess is as good as mine! Someone said that such compelling evidence of positive fruits proves this is from God. 3 You pray for the conversion of anyone who supports. If only she would medidate on the messages. God calls ALL people to repentance and conversion. Now youre obfuscating the issue. Very interesting; Id like to visit it someday since its relatively close to me. Explode if someone contradicts you.? You seem to becoming a little unglued.) Hang in there! Well, Ive gopt a question: Regarding the bishops we are supposed to obey: how many of them have concealed pedophile priests? A non-believer can simply read the older warning messages, dated much before any occurrences, and see for himself. Do you still believe as the authorities thought they did, that Joans voices were from the devil? In fact I know him, Fr. Bigger trials are coming in the future, Patti. Lennon then cites the desire of the Holy See for Lennon to act definitively on this matter. How could all these good fruits not be from God? To commit Mortal sin, we enumerated those 3 things has to be present. reputable theologian who has examined the subject. Laws I have given to you as a road map to Heaven. Natural disasters. He told me when our country , church and priests were in trouble,the priests from the USA came and helped us. Yes, there are those within Church structure that do not follow Church teaching. Can you repost the link? You wont be asking that question. Again, Madame, an admonishment IS a warning and a warning and/or admonishment (Same thinglook it up in the dictionary) is NOT A FORMAL COMMAND OF OBEDIENCE and does NOT NEED TO BE OBEYED. Mary is entirely correct. People can follow Sweeny-Kyle or the Church, but not both. The relevancy of the full doctrine of the Catholic Faith being taught at HLM is most relevant to the deplorable catechesis that has gone on in this country for 40 years due to poor and, in some cases, nonexistent teaching by the bishops.. That you state that HLM messages are irrelevant to the topic again shows your blind obtuseness to the truth. Yet it can happen that moral conscience remains in ignorance and makes erroneous judgments [CCC 1790]This ignorance can often be imputed to personal responsibility. It is when Rome itself speaks officially that the matter will be finished. It has never been the Churchs position that free will keeps a soul from holiness. Bishop Lennon has not taught his people just exactly WHAT is offensive in HLM. It can get the faithful off track. Trudging along two miles of country road in Kettle River, Minnesota, I shifted the back carrier which held my three-year-old son. which indicates that it is free will that keeps a soul from holiness! He told his followers to do as they say but not as they do. Sweeney-Kyles logic of ecumenical ministry does not hold water when weighed against Church doctrine and law. These messages which support the two great commandments-love God above all else and love your neighbor as yourself-are given by means of private revelation to Heaven's messenger. To those who were curious, I have received a response from The Wanderer to my request for the citation in their publication that would verify the statement that 3221 said he/she read in The Wanderer (posted elsewhere in these comments as: Mother Teresa and her sisters refused to sit after they had received the Holy Eucharist when their bishop specifically reprimanded them and told them to do so. What is your point in quoting all these excerpts from the Gospel? The writings of HLM are totally reasonable. The site has been deemed to be not of supernatural origin and the faithful have been admonished to not visit the site, as well as all clerics forbidden to visit or to administer any and all sacraments at this site. I dont judge them or point fingers, but it is what it is. When has Jesus rejected His own authority that of the Catholic Church? The Bishop explicitly states HLMs claims to be not supernatural in origin. Tell me, 3221, where does the word admonishment (or another derivative form) appear in Lennons document? It ahs deepened my loyalty to Christ and His Church. When in the history of the Catholic Church have approved apparitions consisted of a Blessed Mother going freestyle outside the Church? We must be vigilant always. Your interpretations of HLM messages are very confused and you exhibit grave misunderstandings of Catholic theology. The decree, issued by the diocese, was issued at the sole discretion and discernment (opinion) of Bishop Lennon and one unnamed "expert". Insinuations have been made, and without one shred of proof. do something new. I was joined by 3,500 other pilgrims who had congregated to see if the Virgin Mary would appear as purported locutionist Stephen Marino had reported she would. I have seen that more than once with my own eyes, I have seen priests take parishioners on a long trip to visit that abomination. So, you would also accept a metaphor of a God with multiple human arms and hands like some of the Hindu gods? There are four chambers in the human heart. He/She obviously doesnt get the point. It did not. False prophets are among us. It behooves us all to remember that Joan of Arc, now Saint Joan, was condemned by the bishops to eternal flames for believing in a false appartition. Sadly, some cannot, or will not, recognize the Shepherds voice (cf John 10:14). But now the line has been drawn. If you want to go to a site that is true, go to Fatima or the approved sites , but try to really discern what is true and not true. Any profit from the sale of the Rosary of the unborn is to fund a shelter for unwed mothers.
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